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Asked By OREALLY on 11-Aug-12 04:38 PM
How Do I determine the version of Windows Live Mail (Desktop) I am Using?

Oreally




Bruce Hagen replied to OREALLY on 11-Aug-12 04:45 PM
Are you using a newer version with the ribbon toolbar? Menu Button |
About.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA
OREALLY replied to Bruce Hagen on 11-Aug-12 04:57 PM
FileHippo says I am using: 15.4.3555.308 and it offers: 16.4.3503

But should not the update be part of Windows Update?










Are you using a newer version with the ribbon toolbar? Menu Button |
About.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA
Bruce Hagen replied to OREALLY on 11-Aug-12 05:31 PM
I have the same build as you do and my machine is up to date. I have no
idea what the FileHippo build is about.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA
OREALLY replied to Bruce Hagen on 11-Aug-12 05:44 PM
OK...and where do you find that build info?

Thanks






I have the same build as you do and my machine is up to date. I have no
idea what the FileHippo build is about.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA
Bruce Hagen replied to OREALLY on 11-Aug-12 05:51 PM
You click on the Menu Button, (At the top left of the Home Tab), and then
the About button.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA
R. C. White replied to Bruce Hagen on 11-Aug-12 10:37 PM
Hi, Bruce.

Windows Live had another major naming convulsion last week!  See Winston's
post, "Windows Live Essentials 2012", in this NG on 8/7/12.  While there
were changes to several programs in the Live family, the pertinent part for
this discussion is that when I click the Windows Live Mail button (that blue
bar in the upper left) and then About, the screen that appears shows many
lines, including these two:

Windows Live Essentials 2012
Version 2012 (Build 16.4.3503.0728)

I think this re-naming and re-alignment of Movie Maker and Photo Gallery -
and other changes, such as @Outlook.com - are all part of Microsoft's
transition to the new Windows 8, which has gone RTM and will be Generally
Available soon.  We should stand by for further changes soon...

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP (2002-2010)
Windows Live Mail 2012 (Build 16.4.3503.0728) in Win7 Ultimate x64 SP1






I have the same build as you do and my machine is up to date. I have no
idea what the FileHippo build is about.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA
Bruce Hagen replied to R. C. White on 11-Aug-12 10:59 PM
Hmmm. I have WLMail and Photo Gallery and Movie Maker on my machine. I
do not use any of them. Perhaps if one has some other Live programs
installed the WLMail build may update?

The only reason I have WLMail installed is for reference purposes in the
NGs and forums.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA
...winston replied to Bruce Hagen on 12-Aug-12 12:35 AM
Windows Live Mail 2012
- Version 2012 (Build 16.4.3503.0728)

is available as a download, it is not (at this time) pushed via the =
program's autoupdater, the programs current version request=20
updater, or Windows/Microsoft Update.

A lot of that has to do with the fact that components of Windows =
Essentials 2012 are (Windows 7 only)

The latest MSFT statement
If XP use WLE 2009
If Vista use WLE 2011
If Win7 use WLE 2012 (and only install Movie Maker 2012 if your video =
card fully supports Direct X 10 and Pixel Shader 2.0)
- Catch 22 (you cannot install Movie Maker without PhotoGallery - i.e. if =
your card does not meet the above you can install PG, but=20
MM will not load)
If Win8 - use WLE 2012 (though of late note...some Win7 systems that =
do not meet sys req for MM12 may actually work if upgraded to=20
Win8) - ymmv




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...winston
msft mvp mail



Winston's post, "Windows Live Essentials 2012", in this NG on=20
family, the pertinent part for this discussion is that when I=20
and then About, the screen that appears shows many lines,=20
Gallery - and other changes, such as @Outlook.com - are all part=20
will be Generally Available soon.  We should stand by for=20



Hmmm. I have WLMail and Photo Gallery and Movie Maker on my machine. I
do not use any of them. Perhaps if one has some other Live programs
installed the WLMail build may update?

The only reason I have WLMail installed is for reference purposes in the
NGs and forums.
--=20
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA=20
...winston replied to OREALLY on 12-Aug-12 12:41 AM
You're using Windows Live Mail 2011 QFE3 (the last build for 2011).
It does not autoupdate via  the program or Windows Microsoft Update to =
Windows Live Mail 2012

Windows Live Mail 2012 (is download/install only) and a component of =
Windows Essentials 2012.
- installing WE2012 will update all programs.
- if Movie Maker 12 (MM12) is installed it requires the video card =
display driver to support Direct X 10.
- Direct X 11 comes with Windows 7 though that does not mean your video =
card supports Direct X 11, it may max out at an earlier=20
level (9.0C or 10.0).  Even if it supports 10, the latest driver may be =
necessary to run MM12
- one can not install Photo Gallery 12 without Movie Maker 12 (i.e. its =
possible to have a functional 2012 PG but a 'fail to start=20
MM12).



--=20
...winston
msft mvp mail



How Do I determine the version of Windows Live Mail (Desktop) I am Using?

Oreally=20
Bruce Hagen replied to ...winston on 12-Aug-12 09:44 AM
Windows Live Mail 2012
- Version 2012 (Build 16.4.3503.0728)

is available as a download, it is not (at this time) pushed via the
program's autoupdater, the programs current version request
updater, or Windows/Microsoft Update.

A lot of that has to do with the fact that components of Windows
Essentials 2012 are (Windows 7 only)

The latest MSFT statement
If XP use WLE 2009
If Vista use WLE 2011
If Win7 use WLE 2012 (and only install Movie Maker 2012 if your video card
fully supports Direct X 10 and Pixel Shader 2.0)
- Catch 22 (you cannot install Movie Maker without PhotoGallery - i.e. if
your card does not meet the above you can install PG, but
MM will not load)
If Win8 - use WLE 2012 (though of late note...some Win7 systems that do not
meet sys req for MM12 may actually work if upgraded to
Win8) - ymmv




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...winston
msft mvp mail

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Thanks, winston.
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Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP Oct. 1, 2004 ~ Sept. 30, 2010
Imperial Beach, CA
OREALLY replied to ...winston on 12-Aug-12 06:09 PM
OK...I am using Windows 7 Pro. How do I tell if  the video card supports
Direct X 10 and Pixel Shader 2.0?  My card is an ATI Radeon (HD) 4200

Thanks




You're using Windows Live Mail 2011 QFE3 (the last build for 2011).
It does not autoupdate via  the program or Windows Microsoft Update to
Windows Live Mail 2012

Windows Live Mail 2012 (is download/install only) and a component of Windows
Essentials 2012.
- installing WE2012 will update all programs.
- if Movie Maker 12 (MM12) is installed it requires the video card display
driver to support Direct X 10.
- Direct X 11 comes with Windows 7 though that does not mean your video card
supports Direct X 11, it may max out at an earlier
level (9.0C or 10.0).  Even if it supports 10, the latest driver may be
necessary to run MM12
- one can not install Photo Gallery 12 without Movie Maker 12 (i.e. its
possible to have a functional 2012 PG but a 'fail to start
MM12).



--
...winston
msft mvp mail



How Do I determine the version of Windows Live Mail (Desktop) I am Using?

Oreally
...winston replied to OREALLY on 12-Aug-12 07:07 PM
Click on the Windows Orb, enter dxdiag.exe, double click dxdiag.exe to =
run, wait for it to finish loading and checking.

Report back with:
1. The Direct X version on the System tab
and
2. The DDI version on the Display tab
and
3. Your current driver version in use for the ATI Radeon (HD) 4200

Should provide enough info for us to determine if MM12 will run on your =
system.

--=20
...winston
msft mvp mail



OK...I am using Windows 7 Pro. How do I tell if  the video card supports
Direct X 10 and Pixel Shader 2.0?  My card is an ATI Radeon (HD) 4200

Thanks




You're using Windows Live Mail 2011 QFE3 (the last build for 2011).
It does not autoupdate via  the program or Windows Microsoft Update to
Windows Live Mail 2012

Windows Live Mail 2012 (is download/install only) and a component of =
Windows
Essentials 2012.
- installing WE2012 will update all programs.
- if Movie Maker 12 (MM12) is installed it requires the video card =
display
driver to support Direct X 10.
- Direct X 11 comes with Windows 7 though that does not mean your video =
card
supports Direct X 11, it may max out at an earlier
level (9.0C or 10.0).  Even if it supports 10, the latest driver may be
necessary to run MM12
- one can not install Photo Gallery 12 without Movie Maker 12 (i.e. its
possible to have a functional 2012 PG but a 'fail to start
MM12).



--=20
...winston
msft mvp mail



How Do I determine the version of Windows Live Mail (Desktop) I am Using?

Oreally=20
OREALLY replied to ...winston on 12-Aug-12 08:43 PM
Here is the info:


Click on the Windows Orb, enter dxdiag.exe, double click dxdiag.exe to run,
wait for it to finish loading and checking.

Report back with:
1. The Direct X version on the System tab......11
and
2. The DDI version on the Display tab......10.1
and
3. Your current driver version in use for the ATI Radeon (HD) 4200.....WDDM
1.1

Should provide enough info for us to determine if MM12 will run on your
system.

--






...winston
msft mvp mail



OK...I am using Windows 7 Pro. How do I tell if  the video card supports
Direct X 10 and Pixel Shader 2.0?  My card is an ATI Radeon (HD) 4200

Thanks




You're using Windows Live Mail 2011 QFE3 (the last build for 2011).
It does not autoupdate via  the program or Windows Microsoft Update to
Windows Live Mail 2012

Windows Live Mail 2012 (is download/install only) and a component of Windows
Essentials 2012.
- installing WE2012 will update all programs.
- if Movie Maker 12 (MM12) is installed it requires the video card display
driver to support Direct X 10.
- Direct X 11 comes with Windows 7 though that does not mean your video card
supports Direct X 11, it may max out at an earlier
level (9.0C or 10.0).  Even if it supports 10, the latest driver may be
necessary to run MM12
- one can not install Photo Gallery 12 without Movie Maker 12 (i.e. its
possible to have a functional 2012 PG but a 'fail to start
MM12).



--
...winston
msft mvp mail



How Do I determine the version of Windows Live Mail (Desktop) I am Using?

Oreally
...winston replied to OREALLY on 13-Aug-12 02:34 AM
Apparently that card should be capable to run Windows Essentials Movie =
Maker 12
It meets the Direct X 10 requirement.

http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-radeon-hd-4000/ati-ra=
deon-hd-4200/pages/ati-radeon-hd-4200-overview.aspx


And also apparently not on the blocked list of drivers.
http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windowslive/forum/moviemaker-program/e=
rror-code-c945000e-sorry-movie-maker-cant-start/e510deeb-ec20-475c-b821-d=
db34e751d23

If it runs you should be fine, if not then you may need to update to the =
current available driver from ATI or your OEM pc=20
manufacturer (if available)
http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/ati-radeon-hd-4000/ati-ra=
deon-hd-4200/pages/ati-radeon-hd-4200-overview.aspx



--=20
...winston
msft mvp mail



Here is the info:


Click on the Windows Orb, enter dxdiag.exe, double click dxdiag.exe to =
run,
wait for it to finish loading and checking.

Report back with:
1. The Direct X version on the System tab......11
and
2. The DDI version on the Display tab......10.1
and
3. Your current driver version in use for the ATI Radeon (HD) =
4200.....WDDM
1.1

Should provide enough info for us to determine if MM12 will run on your
system.

--=20






...winston
msft mvp mail



OK...I am using Windows 7 Pro. How do I tell if  the video card supports
Direct X 10 and Pixel Shader 2.0?  My card is an ATI Radeon (HD) 4200

Thanks




You're using Windows Live Mail 2011 QFE3 (the last build for 2011).
It does not autoupdate via  the program or Windows Microsoft Update to
Windows Live Mail 2012

Windows Live Mail 2012 (is download/install only) and a component of =
Windows
Essentials 2012.
- installing WE2012 will update all programs.
- if Movie Maker 12 (MM12) is installed it requires the video card =
display
driver to support Direct X 10.
- Direct X 11 comes with Windows 7 though that does not mean your video =
card
supports Direct X 11, it may max out at an earlier
level (9.0C or 10.0).  Even if it supports 10, the latest driver may be
necessary to run MM12
- one can not install Photo Gallery 12 without Movie Maker 12 (i.e. its
possible to have a functional 2012 PG but a 'fail to start
MM12).



--=20
...winston
msft mvp mail



How Do I determine the version of Windows Live Mail (Desktop) I am Using?

Oreally=20